From ???@??? Sun Jan 22 20:31:05 1995 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA73792; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:03:06 -0600 Message-Id: <9501230203.AA73792@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5559; Sun, 22 Jan 95 20:56:49 EST Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8597; Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:56:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:56:48 -0500 From: BITNET list server at BROWNVM (1.8a)Subject: You are now subscribed to the CLASSM-L list To: Richard Repp Reply-To: CLASSM-L-Request@BROWNVM.brown.edu X-Lsv-Listid: CLASSM-L Sun, 22 Jan 1995 20:56:48 Your subscription to the CLASSM-L list (Classical Music List) has been accepted. Please save this message for future reference, especially if you are not familiar with LISTSERV. 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Mon Jan 23 09:47:14 1995 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA99170; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:29:32 -0600 Message-Id: <9501230629.AA99170@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6127; Mon, 23 Jan 95 01:25:06 EST Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9094; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 01:25:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 07:26:02 +0200 Reply-To: Classical Music List Sender: Classical Music List From: Marc Zoutendijk Subject: Re: The beginner Comments: To: classm-l@brownvm.brown.edu To: Multiple recipients of list CLASSM-L Bill Salmi asked: >For someone who is just starting out into the complex world >of classical music, what would be included in the basic >library - say 10 to 12 familiar compositions such as the >1812 Overture or perhaps Beethoven's 5th? Here is my list with (if any) favorite performers/conductors: 1. Purcell - The Fairy Queen (Gardiner) 2. Handel - Water music & Music for the Royal Fireworks (Gardiner or Hogwood) 3. Bach - Well-tempered Clavier (Gustav Leonhardt on harpsichord) 4. Bach - anything else will do 5 Mozart - Entfuhrung aus dem Serail (Hogwood - no one else!) 6. Mozart - Symphony in D major, "Haffner" K385 (Hogwood or Gardiner) 7. Mozart - anything else will do 8. Schubert - All piano sonatas 9. Beethoven - All string quartets and all Piano sonatas 10. Strawinsky - The Firebird (complete version) (Dutoit) 11. Strawinsky - Soldiers Tale (Strawinsky) 12. Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra (Dorati) Some extra remarks: When you listen to music from the baroque era, try the performers who play on original instruments as your first choice. To name a few of these: Gardiner, Hogwood and Koopman. If you don't like what you hear, change to te "modern" versions and when you get bored by them switch back! :-)) Happy listening. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I don't much care where -' said Alice. 'Then it doesn't matter which way you go,' said the Cat. '- so long as I get somewhere ,' Alice added as an explanation. 'Oh, you're sure to do that,' said the Cat, 'if you only walk long enough.' Marc Zoutendijk - tel.+3173565868 - Vught - The Netherlands From ???@??? Mon Jan 23 23:06:03 1995 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA127989; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:34:03 -0600 Message-Id: <9501232234.AA127989@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8534; Mon, 23 Jan 95 17:05:24 EST Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4986; Mon, 23 Jan 1995 16:52:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 15:50:50 -0500 Reply-To: Classical Music List Sender: Classical Music List From: Chuck Long Subject: Thinking Globally Comments: To: classm-l@brownvm.brown.edu To: Multiple recipients of list CLASSM-L [This bounced back to me, I'm trying it again.........] A while back I nattered on incessantly about Gregorian chant. In an intriguing, many-sided response, Dick Hihn reacted to my shoot-from-the-hip statement that the Roman Catholic church has the richest heritage of masterpieces of liturgical music. (I was thinking of people like Palestrina, Victoria, Byrd, Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Faure, Rutter, and many more.) Dick responded with, "Thinking globally, I disagree with you on this point." I need to think more globally and so I would enjoy further discussion about this point by Dick and everyone else on the list. Thanks! Chuck Long, anticipating internet responses from all over the globe From ???@??? Tue Jan 24 10:50:13 1995 Received: from brownvm.brown.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA87563; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:11:05 -0600 Message-Id: <9501241411.AA87563@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1716; Tue, 24 Jan 95 09:05:17 EST Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0338; Tue, 24 Jan 1995 08:49:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 14:28:35 +0100 Reply-To: Classical Music List Sender: Classical Music List From: Ad deKoster Comments: To: CLASSM-L@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU To: Multiple recipients of list CLASSM-L About a year ago I discovered opera, and since then I have obtained a collection of recordings of operas by Donizetti, Bellini, Verdi and Puccini. Most of these recordings are (more) recent ones, if avaliable from Sutherland / Bonynge. Now I have 2 questions, and I wonder if somebody can help: 1. an alternative for Sutherland would be Maria Callas. I wonder if there is a list of all her recordings? I known that EMI has quite a lot. 2. any recommendation on books / recordings of Verismo operas / composers?