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From: Sandy Nicholson 
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Subject: Welcome to rec.music.classical.performing!
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              Welcome to rec.music.classical.performing!

This is a fortnightly posting aimed at introducing new readers to
rec.music.classical.performing. Other periodical postings include a
monthly FAQ (frequently-asked questions) list. [Readers not familiar
with Usenet and newsgroups would be well advised to read articles in
news.announce.newusers before proceeding any further.]

Rec.music.classical.performing is an unmoderated newsgroup, created
to provide a forum for discussion of performance-related issues in
classical music. There are several newsgroups carrying discussion of
interest to musicians. They include the following, which are perhaps
most closely related to rec.music.classical.performing:

  - rec.music.classical - primarily discussion of classical music
       recordings and performances

  - rec.music.early - as rec.music.classical, but dealing with
       `early' music (pre-baroque)

  - rec.music.folk - discussion of all aspects of folk music

  - rec.music.compose - discussion of compositional issues - not
       strictly limited to classical though a significant proportion
       of postings are classically-oriented

  - rec.music.makers etc. - mostly discussion of popular music-
       making (includes newsgroups for guitar and synthesiser)

The newsgroup rec.music.classical.performing was formed to fill a
perceived gap in the existing music newsgroup hierarchy. The following
is an adaptation of the charter for formation of the newsgroup:

    The group serves for discussion of issues relating to
    the performing of classical music (which for present
    purposes can be taken to include early music etc.).
    The newsgroup is appropriate for discussion of:
    instrumental and vocal technique, at both elementary
    and advanced levels; ensemble playing/singing; conducting;
    musical interpretation; instrument maintenance;
    ear-training; sight-reading; tuning and intonation;
    historical performance; etc.

It is not considered appropriate to post reviews of performances and
recordings of classical music (rec.music.classical is the appropriate
newsgroup in that case). Likewise for early and folk music. There will
inevitably be some issues (particularly theory) on the composition/
performance borderline and articles on these might be appropriately
cross-posted to rec.music.compose but, in general, cross-posting should
be kept to a minimum - pay particular attention when following-up to a
cross-posted article. Articles on non-classical music (except early
music and in some cases folk music) are not appropriate (where
performing is involved, try one of the rec.music.makers newsgroups).

Having tried as hard as I can in the last paragraph to put you off
subscribing to rec.music.classical.performing (!), I'd just like to
encourage you to read the newsgroup for a while and, if you like what
you see, to contribute anything you think might be of interest to your
fellow classical musicians. Happy reading!

--
Sandy Nicholson (S.Nicholson@edinburgh.ac.uk)
URL: http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/people/anich/music/  ...for classical music

 
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At the risk of repeating someone else by coming into this so late:

"A German singer!  I should as soon expect to get pleasure from the
neighing of my horse."

                                      Frederick the Great, King of Prussia


Some years later, and Englishman commented on a performance of a
Russian brass ensemble:

"The Duke of Sussex said that the execution of the Russian band was
perfect, which I denied, as their hanging was omitted."

                                      Joseph Jekyll, 1831.



Bill H.
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From: Duetta@ix.netcom.com (Matthew Carnicelli)
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In <3g3335$hqo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jgm4@po.CWRU.Edu 
(John G. Morrell) writes: 

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>
>In a previous article, ferdezio@po.ifc.pi.cnr.it (EzioMF) says:
>
>>A friend of mine needs suggestions and recommendations. I 
know only the
>>performances by Bernstein and some excerpts by Solti.
>>Can anyone help us?
>
The 2nd Bernstein is with Tom Hampson, and is quite good.  My 
first recommendation is this music is Fischer-Dieskau on an EMI 
disc (not even sure if its still available) with Kempe conducting - 
coupled with a wonderful Wayfarer Songs with Furtwangler, and 
a Ruckert Lieder accompanied by Barenboim at the Piano.

Another recommendation is a 2 disc budget set, also on 
EMI/Angel with the Janet Baker and Sir John Barbirolli, coupled 
with her Wayfarer Songs & Ruckert Lieder, and a Das Lied 
conducted by Kletzki with the baritone option for the alto part 
sung by Fischer-Dieskau.

Matt Carnicelli

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In article <790878764.31@cs.york.ac.uk>,
Elliott Hughes  wrote:
>Graham J Ward wrote:
>
>       This is meant to be a joke, isn't it ?  Surely this volume of posts
>       would be far easier to deal with if it were distributed as a newsgroup
>       rather than a mailing list.   Wouldn't it be possible to gateway the
>       list to a group called, say, rec.music.opera ?   What do opera-l
>       people think about this ?
>
>Too right...  I was forcibly unsubscribed from opera-l because of too much
>traffic.  It would be nice to read it again, but until there's a newsgroup,
>I'm stuck.  People keep trying for r.m.opera, but then questions like "where
>does lieder go?" come up.  Good luck, anyway!
>

Cheers !

Actually I don't think problems like `where does lieder go ?' would
would arise at all -- it would be an opera group and not a vocal
music group, and it's pretty obvious what's opera and what's not.
Opera has acting, costume, scenery, all that kind of stuff.  It's a
clearly definable category and that's why it naturally should have its
own newsgroup.  It must just be some kind of historical accident that 
there isn't one already.

It looks like there's a *lot* of enthusiasm for creating rec.music.opera
right now, and I think that now's the time to try to get something
done about it, rather than just saying `me too!', `I vote yes !'.  
I'll look into the rules for creating big seven newsgroups and
maybe try to cobble together a draft RFD.

Cheers,

Graham

-- 
Graham J Ward      graham.ward@wolfson.ox.ac.uk      wolf0065@sable.ox.ac.uk
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From: cohenj@cs.unc.edu (Jonathan Cohen)
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Subject: Re: New HIGHLANDER Movie -- TV Teaser Theme?
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In article ,
-D.OBrien  wrote:
>On the TV teaser previews for the new HIGHLANDER movie, they play a bit of 
>classical music that is very familiar.  It is a choir signing.  Wasn't it also
>used in the old OMEN movie series?  Can anyone name that tune?  
>
>Thanks in advance.

Yes.  It's the opening/closing movement from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana,
_again_.  Some of these movie scores really aren't very original.  And I
really used to like Carmina Burana, too (well, so now I enjoy all the
other movements more :-) ).

Jon